Monday, October 6, 2008

Campaigns New Tone: Palin goes after Obama's connection to William Ayers and Rev. Wright

Well, with 4 weeks to go into the election, a desperate John McCain has finally decided to point out that Barrak Obama, by way of association, may not have the best choice in friends. I saw a woman on one of the Sunday shows, I can't remember her name, but she is a regular pundit, and her little clip was consisted of her with squinted eyes and a little maternal smile chastising McCain by saying is this the tone McCain is going to take. All of us knew that when McCain would actually start to point out some real character flaws in Obama, he would be raked over the coals as attacking. I even heard Obama say over the weekend that McCain was resorting to "smears" instead of the issues. Double speak Obama didn't mention that he was himself running adds talking about McCain's part in the infamous Keating five. If McCain had taken this approach earlier, he would have had time to counter the media rebuke, but now I fear it is too little too late.

I very strongly believe that Obama's associations are very crucial. Obama has no experience at anything real. He will rely more heavily than any other President on the counsel given to him by his advisers. Obama's association with William Ayers, a domestic terrorist, and Rev. William Wright, an American hating black racist, call into question his judgement. Why would Obama start his political career off in the living room of Ayers if they didn't share similar interests. Why would Obama sit in a hate speech filled church for 20 years and claim he had no idea how radical Rev. Wright was, though he admits that wright was a mentor of his.

Obama and the media will call it dirty politics, a hateful tone, or maybe even racism, but why should this country follow this man so blindly on the promise of change. (photo is a mugshot of Bill Ayers from
As I read the news this morning, I came across an AP report from Douglass Daniel who basically solidified my point when he wrote:
"And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret."
By media standards, criticism of Obama equals "racially tinged subtext". This shows why McCain is being such a coward. The worst label to have is that of a racist.


Kansas Bob said...

Do you think McCain is really the maverick he makes himself out to be? The Keating association is a nasty one.. someone who I think bankrolled McCain's intital run for congress. McCain owes a lot of people Scott.. he cannot reform DC becuase he is a part of it.

All that said I don't like Obama any better but his association with Ayres seem different than the one with Wright. For me I don't like the inuendoes that Palin is throwing around about the Ayres connections - saying Obama is "palling around with terrorists".. that is just smear politics.. I really thought that she was a different type of politician.

I am so ready for the election to be over and Bob Barr (and whoever) to be president and veep :)

Have a great week Scott!

jrchaard said...

I have to disagree. Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist. Even on 911, he wished he had done more. This is an associate of Obama's that help start his career. And we can't dismiss Rev. Wright. How long would you attend our church if our pastor made similar remarks. For every one of these comparisons, I'm sure you could come up with a McCain flaw. I'm well aware and have no enthusiasm for McCain, but beyond personalities, there isn't a thing I could agree with Obama on, including his vote against the banning of partial birth abortion. It breaks my heart that this is what we are left with. dread or more dread.

Kansas Bob said...

I don't like Ayers' ideology or that of Wright but I am not will to say that because Obama has had asociations with these folks.. in church and in a non-terrorist organization.. that Obama is a terrorist or an America hater.

I am also not willing to say that McCain is anti-American because he has foreign country lobbyists advising him. Also not willing to say he is corrupt because of his involvement with the Keating 5.

I think that all this stuff is just Karl Rovian stunts to get the focus off the economy.. but I may be wrong.. been wrong before.

thejotus said...

Kansas Bob, you really leave me at a loss for words. Sarah Palin in her comments of Obama "palling around with terrorists" is a true and factual statement. NOT innuendos as you suggest. FACT.

Bill Ayers is an admitted terrorist and has been on the record stating "he is sorry he never did enough." This is in addition to what Scott said above.

Ayers enlisted Obama to help distribute money he raised through the CAC. The CAC translated Mr. Ayers’s radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with “external partners,” which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn). Obama was in charge of distributing this money Kansas Bob. Making sure these organizations got this money.

Obama may not be an actual terrorist, but rest assured he most certainly palls around with them.

As for Reverand Wright, I will make it simple: Obama spent twenty years listening to this racist, America hating moron. 20 years. 20......years. You don't continue to convene at a place for 20 years if you don't like what you are hearing. The best part is that Obama said "that is not the Reverand Wright I used to know." Like this jerk all of a sudden decided recently to hate white people and his own country.

Moving on: How is McCain's involvement a Nasty one" as you put it?? Let's see what Robert S Bennett had to say about McCain. Who is Robert S Bennett you ask? Well let's find out:

Robert S. Bennett is a registered Democrat and was the special investigator during the Keating Five scandal. Mr. Bennett fully investigated McCain back then and suggested to the Senate Ethics Committee to not pursue charges against McCain. He went on to say "And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is honest and an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him."

I think McCain was absolved of this 20 something years ago. To bring this up, is smear tactics at it's best.

Kansas Bob said...

Here is are a few excerpts from the NY Times article that Sarah Palin references in her stump speeches when she says that Obama pals around with terrorists:

"More recently, conservative critics who accuse Mr. Obama of a stealth radical agenda have asserted that he has misleadingly minimized his relationship with Mr. Ayers, whom the candidate has dismissed as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “somebody who worked on education issues in Chicago that I know.”

A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”
In March 1995, Mr. Obama became chairman of the six-member board that oversaw the distribution of grants in Chicago. Some bloggers have recently speculated that Mr. Ayers had engineered that post for him.

In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year. At a lunch with two other foundation heads, Patricia A. Graham of the Spencer Foundation and Adele Simmons of the MacArthur Foundation, Ms. Leff suggested that Mr. Obama would make a good board chairman, she said in an interview. Mr. Ayers was not present and had not suggested Mr. Obama, she said."

Sarah Palin's reference to the NY Times (wonder if she read the article) seems to be a half-truth at best and IMO a bit nasty and desperate.. but I don't really fault her as much as the Rove minions who put her up to it.

I am glad that you like McCain and Palin thejotus and feel a need to defend them. I don't care for any of the candidates but do hope to get a better sense of who to vote for in the coming days.. hearing what they are saying on the stump and in the debate is helping a bit.

jrchaard said...

I must say that if Obama had faced the same media scrutiny as Mrs. Palin is now under going, I believe the election would involve different candidates.

thejotus said...

Whether she referenced The New York Times article is irrelevent. The facts are the same. It isn't nasty nor desperate when you tell the truth, which is what she did. Obama palls around with terrorists.

The New York Times article you mention puts about a tenth of an effort into exploring Obama’s connections to William Ayers. Despite the fact that Obama worked for Ayers at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge for several years and with Ayers on the Woods Fund for a few more, your Paper of Record insists that the two men have no real ties at all.

Obama worked as CEO of the project that Ayers helped found, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, for several years. Ayers served on the board at the same time.

They worked on two projects together, political projects, for almost a decade in Chicago. That’s hardly sporadic as the articlae suggests; that’s a well-established working relationship, and certainly much more substantial than Obama’s description of Ayers as just another familiar face in the neighborhood.

How close does Obama have to be to make this connection a valid point? The two men worked together on political projects in Chicago. The issue has nothing to do with the quality of their friendship, if one exists (and there seems to be evidence of one), but with the kind of work the two men did together. Ayers still fights for the overthrow of the capitalist system, and his educational project was designed to create little charter schools for churning out radicals.

But dynamite reporting by the Times.

I do feel the need to defend Palin. She is a sincere politician who has a proven track record.

As for McCain, I could care less. My goal is to see that Obama does not get elected.

Kansas Bob said...

Thanks for the response thejotus. I appreciate the way that you approach the issue.